The Cure

NEW DRUMMER PLEASE!!!!

The Cure needs a new drummer for the next tour/record. 4:13 is a great album spoiled by simple, generic drumming. I know this has been discussed several times before, and many fans have asked for the return of Boris Williams. I am not asking for that much. If it happens in 2009, then it could be the best thing to happen to The Cure since 1992.

Anyway, Robert, please recruit a new drummer. I know you have noticed the improvement in sound when Porl returned to the band. Jason has played on 4 albums, and he still sounds like an amateur drummer. The Cure needs a new drummer or Boris Williams. Please listen to the recordins in studio and live from 85-92 and you will tell the difference.

So far there hasn't been a single drummer that has lasted for more than 4 consecutive albums. Lol drummed in 4 albums; Three Imaginary Boys, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography. Boris drummed in 4 albums; Head on the Door, Kiss me, Disintegration and Wish. Jason has drummed in Wild Mood Swings, Bloodflowers, The Cure, and 4:13 Dream. I hope this pattern continues!!!

BORIS!

BORIS! absolutely!
I saw him play on the Disintegration and Wish tours and was so completely in AWE of his talent.

I say bring back the Kiss me/Disintegration/Wish Lineup (minus Lol) altogether. The Cure's Clearly best lineups and live, all parts played by someone (keyboards on playback on this last tour? not cool. When all the parts aren't live it really takes away from the spontaneity and "liveness" of the show.)

Robert
Simon
Porl
Boris
Roger

Best Cure.

Would love for the "dark" album to follow 4:13 to have this lineup.

Don´t look back in anger...

We all love the way Boris played, but Boris decided to leave and Jason came. We all have to live with that, and I´m sure apart from the technical knowledge in drumming, RS needs someone who fits in the Cure idiosyncrasy, and Jason seems to fit perfectly... otherwise he would have left a long time ago.

It´s about we all took over from Boris departure. It´s been 15 years!

Re: Don´t look back in anger...

StrangETimeS wrote:


It´s about we all took over from Boris departure. It´s been 15 years!

Re: NEW DRUMMER PLEASE!!!!

Antartica wrote:
The Cure needs a new drummer for the next tour/record. 4:13 is a great album spoiled by simple, generic drumming. I know this has been discussed several times before, and many fans have asked for the return of Boris Williams. I am not asking for that much. If it happens in 2009, then it could be the best thing to happen to The Cure since 1992.

Anyway, Robert, please recruit a new drummer. I know you have noticed the improvement in sound when Porl returned to the band. Jason has played on 4 albums, and he still sounds like an amateur drummer. The Cure needs a new drummer or Boris Williams. Please listen to the recordins in studio and live from 85-92 and you will tell the difference.

So far there hasn't been a single drummer that has lasted for more than 4 consecutive albums. Lol drummed in 4 albums; Three Imaginary Boys, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography. Boris drummed in 4 albums; Head on the Door, Kiss me, Disintegration and Wish. Jason has drummed in Wild Mood Swings, Bloodflowers, The Cure, and 4:13 Dream. I hope this pattern continues!!!

a mon avis...

...jason's drumming is excellent on this albumn ;)

and i wouldn't like to see roger back

When will we learn

Okay. So this is not the first time we've seen this opinion being shared. Clearly the powers that be don't seem to care about that opinion, and Jason stays. So why keep nit picking at the man? It's not going to change things.

No...

...Have you seen him play live? I wouldn't describe his drumming as "simple" or "generic", if anything I think there are times when he could lay off the toms a bit.

Honestly, I'm sick of this argument. If Boris came back, that would be awesome, but Jason is great too.

Re: a mon avis...

boc... wrote:
...jason's drumming is excellent on this albumn ;)

and i wouldn't like to see roger back

No complaint abut Jason

Most of my musician friends, the guitarits and the bassists, are happy about Jason because his somewhat unique drumming, which is completely different from Boris's, had a great influence on Simon.

Even Simon seemed hard to get used to Jason's drumming at the beginning, but while adjusting himself to Jason's beats, he drastically changed his style of playing the bass.
It is obvious that Simon's bass sounds much heavier and more colorful, and he's much more lively on stage now than before.

BS ----- BS ----- BS-----

This argument is not valid.
1) We can all agree that Robert is a creative genius. He would not allow Jason to play something that he didn't have a hand in orchestrating.
2) I find that Jason more than gets the job done. I don't understand all these complaints. I saw them twice this summer and he rocked!
3) These people making these comments- Let's see your qualifications. If you don't like him and you aren't raking in the dough and recognition that he is- get the H$ll off of here or keep your opinions to being constructive and not redundant.
4) I loved Roger and really wish that he was still here, but such is life. He moved on and now I support his new projects along with the Cure.

Mel

Jason..

he drums like a dream! And Roger is never coming back (at least not any time soon), he does not want to come back either. He's doing his own thing.

It's settled. Robert made it so.

Now, onwards...

;-)

Keep Jason.

Jason is a much better drummer than Boris.
Sure, Boris had some moments of creative genious (In Between Days) but when it comes to actual skill, Jason is far superior.

If you go back to Wish and Kiss Me, you will see the drumming is rather sparse in parts, with Boris leaving it to Porl, Robert and Roger for the actual 'sound' then look at Bloodflowers and The Cure and you will see the drums have become a much larger part of their sound.

To put it bluntly, Boris wouldn't survive if asked to play a different beat to 39, The End Of The World or Taking Off.

In my opinion; Jason > Boris > Lol > Andy

The way I feel about it is this..

Whoever is in the band at the moment, is who Robert WANTS in the band (as well as his band mates, I'm sure). If he did not want them, or feel they were/are not right for the band in any given time, they are asked to leave, or leave on their own, etc.

The point is, in this band, in this time, Jason is right for the band as it is now. If that ever changes, it will not be to pacify the whims of fans, but because Robert and company feels it's time for a change.

Not all exits from bands are boots, most are when people realize they have reached the end of their contribution, and it's time to move on.

Ok? That settled? :-P

EXACTLY!

Well done DJ.

Roger o'Donnell said on his webiste that if he hadn't been booted from The Cure, he would've left anyway.

Boris also left on his own accord.

Re: NEW DRUMMER PLEASE!!!!

Antartica wrote:
The Cure needs a new drummer for the next tour/record. 4:13 is a great album spoiled by simple, generic drumming. I know this has been discussed several times before, and many fans have asked for the return of Boris Williams. I am not asking for that much. If it happens in 2009, then it could be the best thing to happen to The Cure since 1992.

Anyway, Robert, please recruit a new drummer. I know you have noticed the improvement in sound when Porl returned to the band. Jason has played on 4 albums, and he still sounds like an amateur drummer. The Cure needs a new drummer or Boris Williams. Please listen to the recordins in studio and live from 85-92 and you will tell the difference.

So far there hasn't been a single drummer that has lasted for more than 4 consecutive albums. Lol drummed in 4 albums; Three Imaginary Boys, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography. Boris drummed in 4 albums; Head on the Door, Kiss me, Disintegration and Wish. Jason has drummed in Wild Mood Swings, Bloodflowers, The Cure, and 4:13 Dream. I hope this pattern continues!!!

Re: NEW DRUMMER PLEASE!!!!

Antartica wrote:
The Cure needs a new drummer for the next tour/record. 4:13 is a great album spoiled by simple, generic drumming. I know this has been discussed several times before, and many fans have asked for the return of Boris Williams. I am not asking for that much. If it happens in 2009, then it could be the best thing to happen to The Cure since 1992.

Anyway, Robert, please recruit a new drummer. I know you have noticed the improvement in sound when Porl returned to the band. Jason has played on 4 albums, and he still sounds like an amateur drummer. The Cure needs a new drummer or Boris Williams. Please listen to the recordins in studio and live from 85-92 and you will tell the difference.

So far there hasn't been a single drummer that has lasted for more than 4 consecutive albums. Lol drummed in 4 albums; Three Imaginary Boys, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography. Boris drummed in 4 albums; Head on the Door, Kiss me, Disintegration and Wish. Jason has drummed in Wild Mood Swings, Bloodflowers, The Cure, and 4:13 Dream. I hope this pattern continues!!!

NEW TOPIC PLEASE ! ! ! !

FOR FUCKS SAKE!

About this "amateur drummer" business...

um...haven't you listened to the Bloodflowers album?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Re: Huh

FlippingToad wrote:
Leave the man alone. If he couldn't do the job he wouldn't be playing with the other Godlike Geniuses now would he :oI

Re: NEW TOPIC PLEASE ! ! ! !

xstrwbrryxkissx wrote:
FOR FUCKS SAKE!

c'est trop !!

je suis presque d'accord. je ne vois pas trop williams revenir. par contre par rapport au jeu de batterie de cooper, il est soulant, lourd avec ses moulinettes partout, pas un temps mort, des cymbales à gogo. un peu de dépouillement, please ! l'album est parfois inaudible, en plus la guitare de thompson ajoutée là-dessus, wahwah à gaver. surproduit ce disque. de bons morceaux mais la batterie gâche un peu le tout, un peu trop de saturation dans les guitares à mon goût. ça manque de simplicité. pour moi plus il y a d'effets spéciaux, plus ça cache la misère, comme dans un film.

WOW!

I have seen this post for the last couple of days but didn't open it and read because I'm so fucking sick of the Jason bashing I could kick a wall.

And then, I decided to open it this evening and to my surprise the whole first page is people sticking up for Jason!

Kudos to the Cure fans who support Jason. I think he's a fantastic drummer. Listen to It's Over and tell me he is not fucking rocking those drums out!!!!!

Re: WOW!

caterpillargirl2 wrote:
Listen to It's Over and tell me he is not fucking rocking those drums out!!!!!

!!!

Amen to that!!

ne soyez pas aveugle et gardez l'esprit critique

il faut arreter d'etre aveugler par the cure, et ne pas etre fanatique comme la Suzanne. le fanatisme tue. la critique est constructive, chacun a le droit d'avoir un avis. le respect n'est pas de dire "ce qui disent du mal de the cure sont des enculés" La Suzanne doit avoir 4 ans d'age mentale pour reagir comme cela.

translate >> you should stop to react as a 4 years child. "if you say bad things on the cure, RS or the others, you are fuckers !" : so childish. criticize is constructive, everybody can have an idea, respect is to listen the others, not to judge. Suzanne must be a child who defend her puppets..

sick of it all

moi je suis fatigué d'entendre ou de lire RS est un génie, il est le meilleur. ok ils ont fait de très très bons albums mais de là à dire qu'ils sont les meilleurs, si ça peut vous aider à vivre. je trouve ça ridicule, et dangereux, ça manque d'ouverture d'esprit.

i'm sick to listen or to read that RS is the best, is a genius. Ok tey made very good albums, but how to say that they are the best. If it could help to live.. i find it ridiculous and dangerous. openminding is missing.

good luck

Jason Rocks

The Boris era ended close to 15 years ago. Jason has the been the drummer for half of The Cure's existence.

Jason's drumming on the new album is excellent and may be his best yet. Give him credit guys.

Besides, AFAIK Boris never wrote any songs and neither does Jason.