|10/31/2008 6:38 PM (GMT-04:00)|
NEW DRUMMER PLEASE!!!!
The Cure needs a new drummer for the next tour/record. 4:13 is a great album spoiled by simple, generic drumming. I know this has been discussed several times before, and many fans have asked for the return of Boris Williams. I am not asking for that much. If it happens in 2009, then it could be the best thing to happen to The Cure since 1992.
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|10/31/2008 7:16 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|10/31/2008 11:39 PM (GMT-04:00)|
We all love the way Boris played, but Boris decided to leave and Jason came. We all have to live with that, and I´m sure apart from the technical knowledge in drumming, RS needs someone who fits in the Cure idiosyncrasy, and Jason seems to fit perfectly... otherwise he would have left a long time ago.
|10/31/2008 11:47 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Sorry for the mistake, I wanted to say
It´s about time we got over from Boris departure
|11/1/2008 1:28 AM (GMT-04:00)|
|11/1/2008 1:34 AM (GMT-04:00)|
...jason's drumming is excellent on this albumn ;)
|11/1/2008 1:40 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Okay. So this is not the first time we've seen this opinion being shared. Clearly the powers that be don't seem to care about that opinion, and Jason stays. So why keep nit picking at the man? It's not going to change things.
|11/1/2008 3:49 AM (GMT-04:00)|
...Have you seen him play live? I wouldn't describe his drumming as "simple" or "generic", if anything I think there are times when he could lay off the toms a bit.
|11/1/2008 3:51 AM (GMT-04:00)|
I've said this before...I can't imagine Roger fitting in with this lineup and their style the way it is now.
|11/1/2008 4:41 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Most of my musician friends, the guitarits and the bassists, are happy about Jason because his somewhat unique drumming, which is completely different from Boris's, had a great influence on Simon.
|11/1/2008 6:46 AM (GMT-04:00)|
This argument is not valid.
|11/1/2008 7:28 AM (GMT-04:00)|
he drums like a dream! And Roger is never coming back (at least not any time soon), he does not want to come back either. He's doing his own thing.
|11/1/2008 7:48 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Jason is a much better drummer than Boris.
|11/1/2008 8:13 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Whoever is in the band at the moment, is who Robert WANTS in the band (as well as his band mates, I'm sure). If he did not want them, or feel they were/are not right for the band in any given time, they are asked to leave, or leave on their own, etc.
|11/1/2008 4:56 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Well done DJ.
|11/1/2008 5:44 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I too am sick of hearing this lament. I suspect this sentiment is from those fans who think The Cure peaked at 'Disintegration.' Listen, Boris Williams was a fine drummer. However, to me he is just a really good timekeeper. Jason Cooper has more talent and skill. Take a listen to the 'Trilogy' DVD, Jason can play all of Boris' parts with ease. I doubt the reverse is true. Jason is no amateur. He brings very much to the band. I think his drumming is considerably more complex than much of what Boris did. An excellent example is on "Truth Goodness and Beauty" from 'The Cure' CD. I am longtime Cure fan and when Jason joined for the 'Wild Mood Swings' CD I was a bit disappointed, but I opened my ears (and my mind). Jason is as solid as he can be on the skins.
It is 2008 and time to evolve...Antartica.
|11/1/2008 8:19 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Oh fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
I'm so sick of reading bullshit like this...
|11/1/2008 8:57 PM (GMT-04:00)|
FOR FUCKS SAKE!
|11/1/2008 9:56 PM (GMT-04:00)|
um...haven't you listened to the Bloodflowers album?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
|11/2/2008 3:39 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Well said. I felt sick when I read this post - not good form at all.
|11/2/2008 2:27 PM (GMT-04:00)|
turn the page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
|11/2/2008 2:35 PM (GMT-04:00)|
je suis presque d'accord. je ne vois pas trop williams revenir. par contre par rapport au jeu de batterie de cooper, il est soulant, lourd avec ses moulinettes partout, pas un temps mort, des cymbales à gogo. un peu de dépouillement, please ! l'album est parfois inaudible, en plus la guitare de thompson ajoutée là-dessus, wahwah à gaver. surproduit ce disque. de bons morceaux mais la batterie gâche un peu le tout, un peu trop de saturation dans les guitares à mon goût. ça manque de simplicité. pour moi plus il y a d'effets spéciaux, plus ça cache la misère, comme dans un film.
|11/2/2008 4:04 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I have seen this post for the last couple of days but didn't open it and read because I'm so fucking sick of the Jason bashing I could kick a wall.
|11/2/2008 4:08 PM (GMT-04:00)|
There are a LOT of songs where Jason shines. I don't get the mouthy rudeness of people knocking him at all.
Anybody who says anything rude about Robert i think i hate those people. real hate too. not just feigned hate. I hate.
I plain fucking tired of the snobbish negativity and other stuff like so-called know it all (HA!) music criticizers who seem to think their opinions actually mean something to anybody. They don't. i'm sick of reading crap explanations of things that do not and apparently cannot know because they have shit taste in music if they have ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to say negative about The Cure, Robert, or any album The Cure has put out, most especially this newest one. I'm sick of it. TOTALLY SICK OF IT. I think those people are either emotionally retarded or in some way brain damaged. At the very least, just plain rude.
|11/2/2008 4:13 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Amen to that!!
|11/3/2008 1:29 PM (GMT-04:00)|
il faut arreter d'etre aveugler par the cure, et ne pas etre fanatique comme la Suzanne. le fanatisme tue. la critique est constructive, chacun a le droit d'avoir un avis. le respect n'est pas de dire "ce qui disent du mal de the cure sont des enculés" La Suzanne doit avoir 4 ans d'age mentale pour reagir comme cela.
|11/3/2008 1:39 PM (GMT-04:00)|
moi je suis fatigué d'entendre ou de lire RS est un génie, il est le meilleur. ok ils ont fait de très très bons albums mais de là à dire qu'ils sont les meilleurs, si ça peut vous aider à vivre. je trouve ça ridicule, et dangereux, ça manque d'ouverture d'esprit.
|11/3/2008 1:59 PM (GMT-04:00)|
The Boris era ended close to 15 years ago. Jason has the been the drummer for half of The Cure's existence.
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