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11/2/2008 4:09 PM (GMT-04:00)
roberts_hairspray

nothing to do with the cure, but I will have to listen to some to make me calm.............

JUST back from a sporting jaunt with 2 of my 4 kids. and FUK FUK FUK, I hate small men(as in small worlded men) and I hate how we can fukn escape one coarch in particular who dislikes my son for WHATE#VER reason and fukn undermines his attempts to reach his goal of being selected for a higher rep team.



FFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKk


im not saying my son is a super star, but he played quite well, and unfortunately he is a very anxiety ridden child and no matter how hard i try (NEVER ENOUGH) i cannot shift the notion from his brain that not being seloected does not in fact translate into you're a failure.

he acts, he never gets the role, he has multiple callbacks, nothn apart from one add. So everything I give him to start to enhance his elf esteem and good feelings fukn backfires.................. and ends up reinforcing his depressive tendancies..........


aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh


i get it too, because I was never the best at anything, ever, just a fukn all rounder, good at lots, excellent at none, and i still feel that rejection. i tell him and model everything he needs, but its NOT FUKN WORKN.................



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thanks for the purge..... after the support you guys gave me about my dearest little KitKat, and me crying shamelessly about her passing, i hope you will tolerate this rant too....


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11/2/2008 6:32 PM (GMT-04:00)
User RankRosepetals

Wow how did I miss this thread!

So sorry, my son was in baseball and the coach was a total prick. He freaking scared the kids and made them so nervous when they were playing to win the top spot in their division! Of course they lost and he freaked out! Not fun at all for them! I so wanted to tell him to blow it out his azz!!!
We didn't play winterball and I am so happy! Now, they are playing just for fun and they are loving it again! They will join a team in Jan. The coaches need to teach them to play and enjoy the game...not play in fear!!

Sorry to hear about your son!! Sounds like you are doing a wonderful job!! Hopefully you can get away from that azzh__ coach!! It can be so competitive and abusive!! Good luck and I hope you feel better soon! Get the coach's picture and put it at the bottom of your toilet!!


11/2/2008 6:42 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankroberts_hairspray

thanks

i spat on my screen with laughter at the toilet remark...............so fukn true............

yes yes yes to all the same things your son felt, and even worse, this guy is in with the selectors.............'

I wish we could go back to being fun,, but he has his goals and seriously they are not THAT unrealistic...... we cant escape him!!! its like a nightmare that is on a loop.........

:i dont want another go around, I want this to be the end, I WANT THIS to be the end"

heheheheheh


11/2/2008 6:43 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rank.Leah.

Re: nothing to do with the cure, but I will have to listen to some to make me calm.............

roberts_hairspray wrote:
JUST back from a sporting jaunt with 2 of my 4 kids. and FUK FUK FUK, I hate small men(as in small worlded men) and I hate how we can fukn escape one coarch in particular who dislikes my son for WHATE#VER reason and fukn undermines his attempts to reach his goal of being selected for a higher rep team.



FFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKk


im not saying my son is a super star, but he played quite well, and unfortunately he is a very anxiety ridden child and no matter how hard i try (NEVER ENOUGH) i cannot shift the notion from his brain that not being seloected does not in fact translate into you're a failure.

he acts, he never gets the role, he has multiple callbacks, nothn apart from one add. So everything I give him to start to enhance his elf esteem and good feelings fukn backfires.................. and ends up reinforcing his depressive tendancies..........


aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh


i get it too, because I was never the best at anything, ever, just a fukn all rounder, good at lots, excellent at none, and i still feel that rejection. i tell him and model everything he needs, but its NOT FUKN WORKN.................



aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh


thanks for the purge..... after the support you guys gave me about my dearest little KitKat, and me crying shamelessly about her passing, i hope you will tolerate this rant too....




OMG I was just about to write a welcome back post!

You are a really good Mum. I feel for you and your son. I was an anxiety ridden child myself and rightly or wrongly am conciously bringing my kids up to be non competitive. I am thinking of maybe martial arts of some sought for my son and dancing for my daughter. Oh what to do? I am not looking forward to what you are going through right now AT ALL. ((HUGS))


11/2/2008 6:47 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankroberts_hairspray

hey leah

non competative is great, but its his goal, not mine, and Ive told him that. I even threaten, if you are not having any fun, or getting anything good from it at all anymore, then im not taking you......... he does love it. he cant get enough. My sister is a tennis coach, and his father used to be golf pro, i guess its in his genes.
i secretly used to want and crave that acknowledgement, b ut I never got it and stil have shit self esteem. He had anxiety disorder, everyday is a struggle at times.......

and dont even start me on the FUKN HIGH SCHOOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........

its very hard, and i want to "fix" it but I cant........ i tell him im proud of him all the time, cos i cant remember hearing that as a child......................... i think thats important, and we spend HOURS debreifing, sometimesa hours daily.

it was a heartbreaking weekend.............


11/2/2008 7:01 PM (GMT-04:00)
User RankCureCatLady

Perhaps see if there are other teams in the area

At least where I live, a kid can join either the school team or an independent community-run team or perhaps the YMCA or similar organization.

Even in the school teams there are usually 3 levels so that everyone can have fun if they really want to play.

I remember the boys from our neighborhood while my son was growing up. Not all of them were jocks and on the team (much to my surprise, my son WAS one of the jocks). The ones who didn't make it developed other talents - like acting or discjockying and I see that they are often as successful or more successful in life as their more athletic peers. The key is to do something you love. That is the greatest recipe for success.

There are teams out there that are more oriented to "having fun" than having to be #1. Try to find one of these for your son if he really wants to play.


11/2/2008 7:11 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankroberts_hairspray

yep, I know

i guess the point of it is that its his goal, and im happy to help him achieve that (within reason) by driving him to most things, but Im not prepared to drag the whole family around for his dream, at their expense, and I want him to have a broarder life (which he does) rather than just his sport.

If I let him live, breathe and eat only hockey, he may be that weeny bit better........, he needs to work harder to get better and MAKE them notice him and then I will have immense pleasure in getting in that guys face.............

I just dont like it that grown adults have agendas that mess with kids like that.......

and for what???

I think he plays at a high level, would be happy if he just stayed as is, but he wantsd it.............., hes coping ok now, juast got news he came equal first in english for the year, out of the whole year 7 grade!!!

ha!! this is from a kids that cant fukn spell beautiful........................ LMFAO!!!


11/2/2008 7:21 PM (GMT-04:00)
User RankCureCatLady

That's sad

roberts_hairspray wrote:
i guess the point of it is that its his goal, and im happy to help him achieve that (within reason) by driving him to most things, but Im not prepared to drag the whole family around for his dream, at their expense, and I want him to have a broarder life (which he does) rather than just his sport.

If I let him live, breathe and eat only hockey, he may be that weeny bit better........, he needs to work harder to get better and MAKE them notice him and then I will have immense pleasure in getting in that guys face.............

I just dont like it that grown adults have agendas that mess with kids like that.......

and for what???

I think he plays at a high level, would be happy if he just stayed as is, but he wantsd it.............., hes coping ok now, juast got news he came equal first in english for the year, out of the whole year 7 grade!!!

ha!! this is from a kids that cant fukn spell beautiful........................ LMFAO!!!



Too bad the coach has to ruin it for him. :( Like I said, maybe there are other teams out there that he can play and have a coach who encourages him in his love for hockey. If he lives and breathes the sport, there is no doubt in my mind that he is good. Bottom line - find another team/coach.

My own son, now an adult, has lived and breathed team sports ever since he was a toddler. He's seeing the payoff now as he actually has much recognition and is making a living off of it. Believe me, your son will thank you for making it all possible for him, if this is the love of his life.

I know here there are many ice rinks that have their own teams apart from school teams. Perhaps there is something similar where you live and your son can find a good coach/team fit? A good coach can be invaluable to a kid's future.

btw...congratulations on him being first in English. I don't doubt that eventually he'll get the right recognition he deserves in sport as well.


11/2/2008 7:27 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankroberts_hairspray

Re: That's sad

CureCatLady wrote:
roberts_hairspray wrote:
i guess the point of it is that its his goal, and im happy to help him achieve that (within reason) by driving him to most things, but Im not prepared to drag the whole family around for his dream, at their expense, and I want him to have a broarder life (which he does) rather than just his sport.

If I let him live, breathe and eat only hockey, he may be that weeny bit better........, he needs to work harder to get better and MAKE them notice him and then I will have immense pleasure in getting in that guys face.............

I just dont like it that grown adults have agendas that mess with kids like that.......

and for what???

I think he plays at a high level, would be happy if he just stayed as is, but he wantsd it.............., hes coping ok now, juast got news he came equal first in english for the year, out of the whole year 7 grade!!!

ha!! this is from a kids that cant fukn spell beautiful........................ LMFAO!!!



Too bad the coach has to ruin it for him. :( Like I said, maybe there are other teams out there that he can play and have a coach who encourages him in his love for hockey. If he lives and breathes the sport, there is no doubt in my mind that he is good. Bottom line - find another team/coach.

My own son, now an adult, has lived and breathed team sports ever since he was a toddler. He's seeing the payoff now as he actually has much recognition and is making a living off of it. Believe me, your son will thank you for making it all possible for him, if this is the love of his life.

I know here there are many ice rinks that have their own teams apart from school teams. Perhaps there is something similar where you live and your son can find a good coach/team fit? A good coach can be invaluable to a kid's future.

btw...congratulations on him being first in English. I don't doubt that eventually he'll get the right recognition he deserves in sport as well.



i HOPE so, it really is everything to him, but I WILL pull the pin, if it doesnt stop reinforcing negative self feelings and underlining to him all the things he CANT do.
its field hockey he loves, and we all play, all 4 kids, and me. But he is the best. My next son down loves it too, and is also very good, but he does not have that drive and killer NEED to be selected and be recognised int hat way, hes happy for people to tell him good game, and know that he did well. Different kids.............

I have thought about changing, I have tried before, he wants to stay with his best mate. Tough chocie, cos I ALWAYS SAT ITS FOR FUN, AND ENJOYMENT AND THEN i SAY, YOU HAVE to get away from out from his shadow, and that coach and that club, and he says, "but they are my friends" but in the next breath cant see that he will never achieve what he wants unless he braks f\ree............ very hard, cos then i have to pick up the pieces when hes not selected - like this weekend.

very hard.. your sons story gives me hope though.

its such a small world to break into.. like mujsic i guess, but if you are a person who needs that arena, that recognition, those accalades................ then thats who you are.

i will keep helping him, WITHIN reason..........

thanks


11/2/2008 7:34 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rank.Leah.

Re: hey leah

roberts_hairspray wrote:
non competative is great, but its his goal, not mine, and Ive told him that. I even threaten, if you are not having any fun, or getting anything good from it at all anymore, then im not taking you......... he does love it. he cant get enough. My sister is a tennis coach, and his father used to be golf pro, i guess its in his genes.
i secretly used to want and crave that acknowledgement, b ut I never got it and stil have shit self esteem. He had anxiety disorder, everyday is a struggle at times.......

and dont even start me on the FUKN HIGH SCHOOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........

its very hard, and i want to "fix" it but I cant........ i tell him im proud of him all the time, cos i cant remember hearing that as a child......................... i think thats important, and we spend HOURS debreifing, sometimesa hours daily.

it was a heartbreaking weekend.............


One of those sometimes no win situations? If it is his goal then all you can do is support hhim which it seems you are giving him in spades. A child knowing there parents are proud of them is so very important. Sorry for your heart break. Hope next weekend is better....


11/3/2008 12:33 AM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankemmasophie

i know how you feel

we all want the best for our children,and when they are hurt we are hurting too.


11/3/2008 3:21 AM (GMT-04:00)
User Ranknicole_forest

Re: hey leah

roberts_hairspray wrote:
non competative is great, but its his goal, not mine, and Ive told him that. I even threaten, if you are not having any fun, or getting anything good from it at all anymore, then im not taking you......... he does love it. he cant get enough. My sister is a tennis coach, and his father used to be golf pro, i guess its in his genes.
i secretly used to want and crave that acknowledgement, b ut I never got it and stil have shit self esteem. He had anxiety disorder, everyday is a struggle at times.......

and dont even start me on the FUKN HIGH SCHOOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........

its very hard, and i want to "fix" it but I cant........ i tell him im proud of him all the time, cos i cant remember hearing that as a child......................... i think thats important, and we spend HOURS debreifing, sometimesa hours daily.

it was a heartbreaking weekend.............


Hey Bron (roberts-hairspray),
I didn't know your dad was a golf pro. I guess that explains why your son feels like he has to live up to something. I had a horrible soccer (football) coach in high school. I don't even know how I made the team, because the coach hated me. His daughters were on the team, and he would always let the play at games while I sat on the benches feeling like a loser. I know how your son feels.

Then, I tried out the second year, and I didn't even make junior varsity soccer when I had played varsity the year before---same coach. So, I went to play in AYSO (American Youth Soccer Organization) that year, had a really great coach who took me under his wing, and I improved.

I think a good coach makes all the difference. I went and tried out my senior year of high school and got back on the soccer team; this time I had a different coach, who was also wonderful and taught me a lot about soccer. So, maybe you should complain about the coach or have a talk to him. I don't think it's fair when those jock-like coaches just pay attention to certain kids and don't hoan the skills of the other ones on the team. Some kids, like me, aren't naturally gifted at sports, but they can get better with a good coach. Sorry for the long post, but I just feel for your son. I initially joined the team too because two of my friends played soccer.

XOXOXO,

Nicole


11/3/2008 2:59 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankroberts_hairspray

Thanks Nicole

T's father was a golf pro............ now in a different sporting industry.............

My sister is a tennis coach

MY dad used to play rep everything...........

I dont have the drive of my son, b ut I know how he feels....... I think when he grows a bit it will help, he's still yet to have his growth spurt..........

very hard - this mother thing at times...........


11/3/2008 10:35 PM (GMT-04:00)
User RankRosepetals

Re: Thanks Nicole

roberts_hairspray wrote:
T's father was a golf pro............ now in a different sporting industry.............

My sister is a tennis coach

MY dad used to play rep everything...........

I dont have the drive of my son, b ut I know how he feels....... I think when he grows a bit it will help, he's still yet to have his growth spurt..........

very hard - this mother thing at times...........


Hope you are having a better day! Yes, this mother business can be difficult at times!! Sounds like you are a good one though,


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