|1/2/2012 12:32 PM (GMT-04:00)|
The whole bestival thing
Hi all, normally I don't tend to write to the forum but I feel a bit disappointed by the bestival cds. Before the album was released I read some reviews from respectable sources which pretty much all said that the live album was a triumph and the sound quality was good. On listening to the album I have to say how little I think of the performance and the sound quality. I'm 36 and have been a huge cure fan since I was twelve. This is the first time I see no merit at all in a product they have released, bar the fact that the money goes to charity.
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|1/2/2012 12:52 PM (GMT-04:00)|
What you feel is the same millions of fans feel with every release since 1996.
In Bestival the sound is too dry, some guitars are pre-recorded (to compensate for Porl's absense), the snare drum sounds thin and like a paint can, the cymbals don't shine, everything sound like a mono recording.
I bought the CDs mainly because 1) price ($9) 2) it was all for charity
|1/2/2012 1:06 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Don't understand how some reviewers were completely of the mark. Honestly, you don't have to be a cure fan to know that this album is pretty much worthless and has the worst version of a forest ever played. R.S seems content to stand in front of crowds and peddle out the greatest hits and enjoy basking in yesteryear's glory. I understand it's only an album but i don't appreciate R.S letting it be released knowing (I assume) that it is both poor in sound quality and content. And, let's face it, the only people who are going to buy the album are dedicated cure fans.
|1/2/2012 1:30 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Those "off-the-mark-reviewers" must be of those yes-men that now surround RS. In this forum you can find LOTS!
|1/2/2012 1:31 PM (GMT-04:00)|
thanks for your comments, it's not just me then! take care
|1/2/2012 6:17 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I hope I don't find it as disappointing as you both do. Mine is on the way...a late Christmas gift from my daughter. Hmmm...I'll let you know.
|1/3/2012 6:22 AM (GMT-04:00)|
If you just take it as it is without any expectations and don't draw comparisons from the past you'll love it. I like the rough edges, its very rock. I got it digitally and the sound is great, maybe it makes a difference.
|1/3/2012 7:11 AM (GMT-04:00)|
After listening to it several times, I agree that the sound is not great! The drums are awful, like a kid hammering away at a tin drum kit! & Roger's keyboard melodies do not compensate for the lack of Porl's guitar! Having said that, I still love it! It has not been over-produced & coated in sickly-sweet. It is just as it should be, raw & bit rough! For me that's a perfect reminder of a great night at Bestival!
|1/3/2012 8:26 AM (GMT-04:00)|
The trouble with different versions of material whether it be music film or anything else for that matter is it is not the original experience that you had (a little like your first kiss).
|1/6/2012 6:34 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Why do you have to sign off with TLC? We know it's you!
|1/7/2012 12:47 PM (GMT-04:00)|
i think the official Cure website should post more Bestival live photo shots, just only one Robert photo is not enough......
|1/9/2012 4:04 AM (GMT-04:00)|
sugargirl67 wrote:ToonLeonC14 wrote:
Hi sweet Sugar,
I think you missed the point at the end with TLC nothing to do with my tag it means Take Loving Care of course just being nice to you all .......................... Just shitting of course I think it has been drummed into me from working to sign off at the end but as you have brought it to my attention I shall desist from doing so in the future...probably say's something about my psyche.
|1/9/2012 6:07 PM (GMT-04:00)|
i disagree... i think the cd´s have amazing sound quality and a forest sounds great with the new keyboard sounds..true cure fans will understand for sure...
|1/9/2012 7:35 PM (GMT-04:00)|
amazing sound quality comparing it with what? a punk/grunge amateur band i guess
|1/9/2012 7:38 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Concert sounds incredible and Entreat sounds amazing...Paris sounds really good...Show sounds good...Bestival sounds bad
|1/10/2012 4:23 AM (GMT-04:00)|
curereadder wrote:tomcure wrote:
curereadder reading your posts makes me think are you a Cure fan you sound like you have been unhappy with their sound for some time yet are still hanging in here. The Cure which I feel is probably more Robert have evolved very successfully where others have fallen by the way. Robert has made very good music choices for years now. I get what you say re the drums however I would hope to think that is how Robert wanted it and would have rubber stamped it and not left it to another individual. He always supplies great value for money CD's and Concerts. It will be interesting what comes next and how the drums sound..
|1/10/2012 5:57 PM (GMT-04:00)|
curereadder wrote:tomcure wrote:
stop picking on my posts...your obviously a very shallow person and have not a dedicated cure fan.. you just sound like a prick .. get your fingers out of my face leave me alone !!!
|1/10/2012 6:01 PM (GMT-04:00)|
ToonLeonC14 wrote:curereadder wrote:
Thank you for some support here toonleonc14... people like curereadder shouldnt be alowed on the forum...looking at his posts he sounds like some anti cure person.i agree if you dont like the music dont listen to it. peace x
|1/11/2012 7:23 AM (GMT-04:00)|
tomcure wrote:ToonLeonC14 wrote:
It would be interesting to hear what curereadder response to my post is after all this is a forum to voice your own opinion thoughts etc.
I can understand any split in Cure fans eg. Try listening to the first three albums and consider you had been doing so for many years then one day you hear Love Cats now that is some change in direction. I recall my first thoughts hearing it in HMV. First I thought that sounds like the Cure but with a pop jazz tweek to it. Then listening to Roberts voice it was obvious it was The Cure. I sought of had a feeling of betrayal at first but then I thought I actual like the pop side of The Cure. I think what I'm getting at is change can be good the difficulty is accepting change. That said I am sure many fans who for years listened to the first three albums probably dispersed in other directions following other bands...
|1/12/2012 2:45 PM (GMT-04:00)|
what i still don't understand is what side of The Cure are we witnessing now. as you mentioned, with lovecats Robert showed his pop side. But with WMS and the other albums (specially with the self titled one) I just don't know.. maybe The Cure's confused side?
|1/16/2012 4:22 AM (GMT-04:00)|
RichFit wrote:ToonLeonC14 wrote:
I read an article recently which gave me cause for thought. It was saying that at the point The Cure turned Pop Robert had realised that the original genre they had entered was not going to have commercial longstanding and in so they turned to a more popular sound. Which you can understand why many die hard fans of the early sounds felt they were forgotten. I think rather than thinking of the material as confused I would call it perhaps eclectic and trying to please all fans at differing times. It will be interesting to see what comes on the new album, perhaps the line up will define what comes next.....
|1/16/2012 6:24 AM (GMT-04:00)|
I can’ t judge the CD but I came over from Belgium to join the concert. I’m afraid , what you hear is a group who wasn’t playing together for quite a long time.
|1/16/2012 11:57 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Hey, I just got mine in the mail!!! I love it!!! No, the sound quality is not the best, but it is a live concert so...that's to be expected? Anyway, I love it. Sound different with Roger back but good. And it's for a good cause. What's not to love?
|1/17/2012 12:17 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Please, let me ask you if you have soundboard bootleg recordings from 1984-1992 and if you think Bestival sounds better. I'd like to have your opinion, be it that you think it's better or not. Thanks.
|1/17/2012 12:18 AM (GMT-04:00)|
No, it's not to be expected. Listen to Show or Paris. Listen to Concert. Listen to In Orange.
The sound plain sucks
|1/17/2012 12:22 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Exactly Arnoys. This is something some people in this forum don't understand yet.
Most people nowadays attend just to say they went to see a legendary rock band or just to spend the weekend.
|1/17/2012 3:36 AM (GMT-04:00)|
RichFit wrote:ARNOYS wrote:
Sadly I agree with your sentiments. However our preference of the Cure original appeal and sound is now definitely a minority. I am fortunate that I still find enjoyment in all styles of music including all style of Cure music unlike some die hard fans. The most annoying thing is that fans don't shut the f*ck up when A Forest is playing, I firmly believe that Robert feels that way although he can never say so. Just take Bestival he's so pissed off with fans groaning over A Forest he has barely left any sound from fans on the CD....
|1/17/2012 9:33 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Why were fans groaning during a Forest? Rude people! They were seriously doing that? I'm surprised Robert didn't tell them to shut the fuck up.
|1/17/2012 4:33 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I was at Bestival, and it was my first ever Cure show, so obviously I was in complete awe and stunned throughout. The sound was great there and I thought that they played fantastically, apart from The Hungry Ghost; that wasn't great.
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