|1/15/2013 6:35 AM (GMT-04:00)|
I think this site is about to die again
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|1/24/2013 3:15 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I would love to listen if what they proposed would be real science. If they could proof that evolution did not exist, they would for sure get the nobel prize. the truth is that what they do is not science. like you have the bible, there are a lot of "rules" on how to do reliable science
An analogue for you of what they do could be something like this:
I sit down and write a book with a story on how earth became and humans came to exist. and then I go and say that it is true because it says so in my book.
This is NOT to offend the bible, it is just an analogue, so you will understand, that the argument they claims to be scientific, has nothing to do with science. Just like my book, would have nothing to do with the bible.
A lot of Love to you too :-)
|1/24/2013 3:59 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/24/2013 4:11 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I can see you point. But for me creationism despise EVERYTHING I believe in! even worse, they are lying!
I would love to teach you about evolution. You don´t have to give up your faith in God, to believe in evolution!
|1/24/2013 4:28 PM (GMT-04:00)|
You stobbern girl...
|1/24/2013 4:35 PM (GMT-04:00)|
ya, I can see your point. And I also thought about looking at them, well because I think you should be open to changing your believes. But I have all ready seen a lot of the creationism argument, and they always makes me in a very frustrating mood. and right now I dont want to be frustrated. but maybe for you Levs, I will do it :-)
see you. hope things are going better for you :-)
|1/24/2013 4:59 PM (GMT-04:00)|
This is a debate that has gone on for centuries :-) And will no doubt take just as long to come to some sort of conclusion, even if it's to agree to disagree! But the timing of Creation is off for me, science has proven that creation occurred AGES before Christianity (and other religions) say it happened.
|1/24/2013 9:17 PM (GMT-04:00)|
MissArr0w wrote:LOSTGIRLJERUSALEM wrote:
Okie-dokie. I've been looking for a qualified Scientist who has credientials AND only believes in Evolution, etc.
Make me The Man. Not just any man, mind you. I want my own Robert Smith. When your crawly cell leaves the soup and My Very Own Robert Smith is done evolving into My Own Man...then leave a message here on the forum. I'll pay for the shipping.
Congratulations on quitting smoking!!! *applauds* Seriously, I know it wasn't easy. But like all good things, it was well worth it. On February 8th it will be my 6th Year Anniversary of Quitting. I calculate it by the day that Anna Nicole Smith died. She died in West Hollywood, Florida...that's where I grew up! On the Seminole Indian Reservation there at the Hard Rock Cafe...where I first went skinny dipping in my whole life when I was 19 years old. A few weeks later, I discovered...to my SHOCK...that particular little clear water pond was HIGHLY VISIBLE when driving along the Turnpike... illuminated BRIGHTLY by the big billboard sign that was so vivid I could see a beer can in the bottom of the pond driving by at over 55mph...of course I didn't know it AT THE TIME of my indiscretion, but oddly, all this fits together quite neatly in my twisted mind :) I will never forget my quitting anniversary now :-D That more than makes up for the 3 solid weeks of sobbing, sleeping, feeling sorry for myself, and nearly going mad while trying to kick smoking. It's more fun to remember than all that. But it's all that which will keep me from ever taking another puff. Maybe it's a mental thing, or maybe it's smelling cigarettes in my apartment building more now that it's 3º outside (today...that's kind of warm) and the place is all closed up. I can actually taste the smoke in the hallway air (like going into a casino) and that is grossing me out.
To Miss Arrow...
You may not believe in any Heavenly or Hellish things...but...as some have unfortunately discovered, mocking Satan is like an invitation for him to come to the ball to PROVE to he's an entity that you would not want to reckon with...ever. If you want to mock an entity, then perhaps if you mock God he will knock you on your bottom whilst proving you are completelywrong...as has been done to more people than can be counted...myself included. Try it. Then hold on tight...it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Peace & Love (that's my Hippy Girl coming out of me...which has been happening more and more lately...)
|1/24/2013 9:51 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Nice to see you, Miss Suzanne:)
|1/24/2013 10:05 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I do think that it is possible to maintain a completely open mind where there is a balance between Science and Theology in such a way that a Scientist can believe in various forms of Evolution AND still believe in a Higher Power, Intelligent Design and all that goes with it.
|1/25/2013 5:35 AM (GMT-04:00)|
One should also contemplate that the earth was populated by aliens. It seemed plausible in my late teens/early 20s... I don't let myself be convinced by creation or evolution. The old testament was written by people with little understanding of science and even if humans evolved from apes we are a miracle of God.
|1/25/2013 5:47 AM (GMT-04:00)|
This book I read in one siting, blew my mind a bit tbh
|1/25/2013 6:35 AM (GMT-04:00)|
It Is a commen misconception that humans develop from the apes we see today.
|1/25/2013 12:44 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Lucy is not the missing link, you are betrayed.
|1/25/2013 12:52 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I am not betrayed. Lucy and Ardi are not the missing link.
you got that right But they have never been said to be.
it is called the missing link well because it is missing :-)
|1/25/2013 12:55 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/25/2013 1:31 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I dont know the detials of the discovery of Lucy, but I can´t really see the problem. If he called her the missing link, that would have been wrong. but she not being the missing link, is not a proof that humans and apes did not have the same ancestor.
If you look a our DNA, which is where mutations, and thereby also evolution happens (very simplified!) you will find that our days human and chimpansies have 99% procent identical/similarities (again very simplified!). For me that is the most convincing evidence of a common anscestor (again there are other "proof")
an essential part of science is the constant questioning of what we think we know. our understanding of the world constantly changes when new discorveries are being found. while small new disvories happens a lot, there are some ground stones on which we bouild other hypotesis to test. ground rules like gravity, the fact that the sun is the rotating center in our solar system, or EVOLUTION. these ground stones have so many "evidences" behind and are therefore very seldom changed. when they do change due to new overwelming evidence a whole new paradigm has to be created.
We dont have a fixed view of the world. in fact we only have an idea about what 5% of the universe is. the 95% rest of it, we have no f...... clue.
What I am trying to say is; science would be willing to through away the theory of evolution, if there were overwhelming evidence against it. But there are NOT!
|1/25/2013 1:42 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I will keep it short as you say you don't know all, neither do scientists.
|1/25/2013 2:27 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Isn't this the OPEN FORUM part of the forum where we can post what we want? Whether it's peanut butter slaps or RSX's dirty underwear or about God, we have a right to say what we think or feel. If it offends you, go to the next thread. That's life, Miss Arrow. Deal with it and stop telling people what they can and cannot talk about because it may harm your Atheistic sensitivities.
|1/25/2013 3:31 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Perhaps Human Beings did NOT evolve from apes. Perhaps it was the other way around...that apes are the result of a pair of mutated humans that mated and inbred consistently, making all the characteristics of ape becoming the dominant genes...creating an entirely new species??????
|1/25/2013 10:54 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Wow, and I thought it was just gonna be another thread on how this forum dies out when the band is quiet and picks right back up as soon as they announce something.
|1/26/2013 5:15 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Lol. It's bringing people back posting though! ;-)
|1/26/2013 2:09 PM (GMT-04:00)|
MissArr0w wrote:LOSTGIRLJERUSALEM wrote:
Sorry, has to correct myself. It is only 4 % (and not 5%) of the entire universe we have an idea about :-)
|1/26/2013 4:58 PM (GMT-04:00)|
...and what can I do ?
|1/27/2013 8:19 AM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/27/2013 5:04 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/27/2013 5:11 PM (GMT-04:00)|
when i get a little time to sit and just watch t.v., i'm going to try to stream these youtube videos though my Wii. There is no way I can sit in front of a computer that long to watch any that long. But I'm curious to watch.
|1/27/2013 6:18 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/27/2013 7:52 PM (GMT-04:00)|
God and I are old pals :-) I don't need any more "savings". He and I have known each other for a long, long, long, long time.
|1/28/2013 12:20 AM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/28/2013 12:21 PM (GMT-04:00)|
please people. take you time to read this post.
|1/28/2013 12:41 PM (GMT-04:00)|
A dream come true!.
|1/28/2013 12:46 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Welcome to the forum Julio! You're brave posting your mobile number ;-)
It's been a while since the Cure were in South America, and since they played proper concerts!
|1/28/2013 1:29 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/28/2013 1:32 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Okay, I just read my post and realized that it sounds a little like those weird golf club ads.
|1/28/2013 2:25 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/28/2013 2:50 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/28/2013 4:23 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Just wanted to tell you that an older edition of the book I recommended to you has the title "The Narrated Bible in Chronological Order" instead of "The Daily Bible in Chronological Order," but it is the same book.
Thank you for your kind words...and yes, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.
|1/28/2013 4:28 PM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/28/2013 11:45 PM (GMT-04:00)|
"The problem is they do not follow the terms of science. to do so they must have a hypothesis (that means question) to test in an objective manner.
|1/29/2013 12:57 AM (GMT-04:00)|
actually, I stand to correct myself... "most" Christians that I personally know do not tend to accept anything rather than the Scriptural explanation of Creation...7 days..the entire thing. But, there are some I do know who have reasoned in a way to successfully merge Science with Spirituality and come up with a compatible explanation that is good enough for them to start believing in something that makes sense to them. At any rate, I consider spirituality to be a personal thing, so it doesn't matter one way nor the other...to me...what other people believe about anything.
|1/29/2013 2:00 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Interesting thread. I registered specifically to post on this. That said, I want to preface my post with the fact that I am a huge Cure fan and have been for many years (my favorite show was at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena).
|1/29/2013 3:13 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Thanks, I like it myself.
I took it last winter in Kenya. It is actually just a picture of cacti, modified with hipstamatic on my iphone. I took some different with different films, and lenses. this one turn out the best :-)
|1/29/2013 3:33 AM (GMT-04:00)|
|1/29/2013 5:05 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I agree with you on many terms and see you have found where the satanic lines came from. I think you are totally right, in that I should keep to my own belief instead of spouting Anton LaVey's "The Satanic Bible". I kind of did that in half frustration/half provocation.
I would probably regard my self as a spiritual Atheist. I don't believe in a higher intelligent power. but I don´t dismiss the existence of metaphysical "things". But I am constant aware, that the spiritual side of me is founded on non-testeable BELIEVES and NOT SCIENCE, and I think that is a really important point.
We don´t no squad about the universe, quantum mechanics etc. maybe someday science will be able to explain things we today consider as supernatural, maybe it will not. I don´t think we are able to comprehend the "universal truth" (if you can call it that). Our brain is develop to exist in a 4D (remember time) world, and we all ready consider the universe to have many more dimensions.
For my there is a huge cliff between being religious and being slightly spiritual. for me being religious means you believe in a supernatural higher INTELLIGENT "person" aka God.
I think at the moment this thread has an okay tone :-) that makes my happy :-)
|1/29/2013 7:19 PM (GMT-04:00)|
ahhh..."religion"...religion is an entirely different subject. Religion is the thorniest or all issues. Wars have been waged, and continue to wage because of religion.
|1/30/2013 10:51 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Be careful for nothing.
The Dangers of Evolution
I see you
Lots of Love
|1/30/2013 11:14 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Hello & welcome! Interesting time to join ;-)
No idea with any other dates, sadly :-(
|1/30/2013 12:50 PM (GMT-04:00)|
cats_n_cheese wrote:dmodert66 wrote:
I noticed that there are a lot of South Americans joining now too. It’s too bad that I don’t know Spanish. Oh well, they’re probably just discussing creationism vs. evolution, like all good Cure fans! :-)
|1/30/2013 1:40 PM (GMT-04:00)|
ErikAilums wrote:cats_n_cheese wrote:dmodert66 wrote:
Back in the day, when the invisimods were here, multilingualism was very frowned upon and people posting in another language also had to put the English translation. It all stemmed from something very silly and caused a lot of friction.
|1/30/2013 1:44 PM (GMT-04:00)|
And added to friction already here... *sigh* those were the days, glad they've been and gone!
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