|6/9/2010 4:26 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Hi! in your opinion, what is the best song of this album?
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|6/9/2010 10:53 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Hmmm that's hard. I would have to go with three of them Underneath the Stars becuase it sounds like there old stuff only one is catchy reminds me of kiss kiss kiss and I like freakshow cause it's a new style for them
|6/9/2010 11:03 AM (GMT-04:00)|
In my opinion, the B sides are actually better than the tracks on the album..
|6/9/2010 12:05 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Of course I fell in love with "Underneath the Stars" immediately...which is expected. I find myself loving "Freakshow", "The Scream", ''Switch", "Sleep When I'm Dead", and "The Real Snow White". However, I love the album as a whole.
|6/9/2010 12:26 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Sad really, haven't listened to it from start to finish since shortly after its release..
Just.. didn't do it for me..
Might be time to dust it off and give it another chance..
Don't get me wrong, UTS was epic, but for me the rest fell really short.. Without You should have been on the album..
Expectations may have been too high knowing Porl was back..
|6/10/2010 3:01 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Get comfy, you could be here a while.. :p
|6/10/2010 11:28 AM (GMT-04:00)|
fattyowls wrote:MissDrea83 wrote:
I implore you to listen to it more...
|6/10/2010 11:29 AM (GMT-04:00)|
The Cure's b-sides are always top-notch and quality...
|6/10/2010 11:58 AM (GMT-04:00)|
MissDrea83 wrote:fattyowls wrote:
That stems from liking B sides himself from groups he likes..
He's quite right in saying it's the B sides that define a band's direction more than the material on the actual album.. :)
He said in an interview that when he was younger and got singles from his fave groups he'd flip the record over to play the B side first..
|6/10/2010 1:32 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I think "I Don't Know What's Going On" sounds more like older Cure than "Underneath The Stars" does.
|6/10/2010 9:42 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Mmm.. wasn't talking so much about old and new..
more about song selection..
Saying that.. had those two songs come from the same era, they would have fit together better than most of the other tracks on 4:13 Dream..
|6/10/2010 9:44 PM (GMT-04:00)|
MissDrea83 wrote:fattyowls wrote:MissDrea83 wrote:
|6/11/2010 1:07 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Just adding to the above..
If you have all the singles and obviously the album..
Take the time to burn a CD with this track order and tell me your thoughts..
The original listing seems to be laid down in a very disinterested way, no real flow or meshing of the tracks (Do feel free at any time to tell me I'm talking bollocks, BTW).. but if they're juggled around a bit with some additions and subtractions..
Bare with me..
1. Underneath the Stars - Great opener, no mistake!
2. The Reasons Why
3. NY Trip
4. The Only One
5. Down Under
6. Without You
8. Sleep When I'm Dead
9. All kinds Of Stuff
10. The Perfect Boy
11. The Hungry Ghost
12. It's Over
13. A Boy I Never Knew
Now, I know I've probably created a monster and started a fan war as I may have left someone's favourite out..
But there's more of a contrast in tempo and mood.. I could be completely wrong :p Just seems to flow better..
The other thing I forgot to mention before, with 4:13 and the self titled, there is a marked absence of harmonization over the top of Robert's main vocal line.. You can listen to what I'm going on about on Wish, that's the main one, where there's up to five layers of harmonizing vocals that Robert sings himself over his own main vocal line.. This isn't easy to do..
The vocal tracks on 4:13 and self titled are completely stripped back, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.. but does make a difference to the overall connection to the song.. One thing I absoulutely adore about most of the previous albums is the fact you seem to find more and more in songs after each listen.. tracks that are sometimes subliminal in the mix add another dimension to the song, you barely notice they're there, but the song wouldn't be the same without them..
All this reflection is making me look forward to the next project even more!
|6/11/2010 6:34 PM (GMT-04:00)|
I adore Without You! Especially his little whisper at the end... It was the first CD single I bought off of the new album, I fell in love with The Perfect Boy and Without You... Two brilliant songs in my opinion :)
I also liked This. Here and Now... even though everyone seems to hate it x] and Hungry Ghost and Reasons Why... and also of course UTS :P
|6/11/2010 6:43 PM (GMT-04:00)|
Wow.. Fantastic track list!! Completely agree with this, I listened through it like that and it really does work much better.. Thanks for posting this :)
|6/12/2010 7:55 PM (GMT-04:00)|
its a fabolous album! i like all the songs!!!
|6/22/2010 2:02 AM (GMT-04:00)|
Musically and orginal. I have to say I like This here and now with you best.
|6/22/2010 3:53 AM (GMT-04:00)|
The Hungry Ghost for me, then Its Over and Switch
|6/26/2010 6:44 PM (GMT-04:00)|
The first song I heard from the album was the Perfect Boy. At a concert. Unfortunately I didn't pay enough attention to it. Later my dad played me Underneath the Stars and told me to guess which song it was. (I originally thought it was some totally mixed up mix of A Letter to Elise) But then he told showed me what it was and I fell in love with it. Then my dad played me the Perfect Boy again but I didn't remember having heard it and I loved that one too. Then my dad bought the album and I liked everything except Switch and It's Over. Freakshow was borderline. The Reasons Why and The Hungry Ghost were ok and I felt like they were really similar for some reason. Like they belong together. Oh I'd also heard the Only One and I liked it- I think that was played at the concert as well. I have to check. I loved Sirensong. Sleep When I'm Dead was cool. This. Here and Now. With You was in second place after Underneath the Stars. I loved loved loved it but couldn't get myself to say that I liked it more than Underneath the Stars. This all happened around Christmas 2008 but by the following summer I loved every track. Including the ones I didn't even bother listening to before. I wasn't an experienced Cure fan then. I really started liking them at that concert I went to. I only knew about 5 songs that they played and I feel ashamed. So I think I see the whole album differently than the lucky ducks who became fans in the early eighties or were at least alive then. 4:13 Dream is my favorite of the 13 albums.
|7/20/2010 10:48 PM (GMT-04:00)|
It's good to have a different perspective..
Us old farts (:p) always have high expectations it seems as we've heard so much before..
I started listening in '96 just before Wild Mood Swings was released and I remember thinking "This is shit, they've done so much better!" The only other abums I had at the time was Standing On A Beach (singles compilation), Mixed Up (remix compilation) and Disintegration. But once I went and bought the rest of the back catalogue and listened to the history of the group, WMS suddenly found it's place within that history! It's now one of my all time favourites!!
So, who knows, maybe history needs to do it's thing like with a bottle of fine wine.. :p
|8/2/2010 9:19 AM (GMT-04:00)|
|jones the steam|
favourite track is switch, then hungry ghost, both ends of the cure sound, both should have been singles.
|8/2/2010 10:09 AM (GMT-04:00)|
jones the steam wrote:
|8/14/2010 10:40 PM (GMT-04:00)|
fattyowls wrote:warcatcure wrote:<br /><br />It's good to have a different perspective..<br />Us old farts (:p) always have high expectations it seems as we've heard so much before.. <br />I started listening in '96 just before Wild Mood Swings was released and I remember thinking "This is shit, they've done so much better!" The only other abums I had at the time was Standing On A Beach (singles compilation), Mixed Up (remix compilation) and Disintegration. But once I went and bought the rest of the back catalogue and listened to the history of the group, WMS suddenly found it's place within that history! It's now one of my all time favourites!!<br />So, who knows, maybe history needs to do it's thing like with a bottle of fine wine.. :p
I know how it feels to have expectations about something that comes out how you least expect it in the end. I wish i'd know the Cure longer than I have and always wonder how i'd see the music if I'd grown up with them-- hearing the music as it came out rather than all out of order.
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