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6/19/2010 9:21 PM (GMT-04:00)
DawnAndDusk

End

By 'End' I mean the closing track on Wish.
Is anyone else head over heels in love with this song? It's the first Cure song I've ever heard, and remains the closest to my heart, even edging out magnificent tracks like 'Pornography' and 'The Same Deep Water As You'. When I listen to this song, it seems to sum up, for me anyway, the whole experience and process of living modern life in a modern world. When I close my eyes and just listen, I can almost feel the crunch of the gravel beneath my feet, see the neon lights shining in the gloom. This song pushes against me the way the footpath seems to push against me when I'm walking through the city at night. And the chorus... "Please stop loving me, please stop loving me. I am none of these things." In those two lines, it seems to sum up the entire culture of disconnection so embedded in society today.
What do you all think of End? Anyone love it as much as I do? An older friend my mine, the only one who listens to the Cure, told me it was a very 90's song. Can anyone explain that? I was sort of -1 years old when it came out, so...

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6/21/2010 12:18 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankcats_n_cheese

Re: End

End is a very good song. I also love Open :-)
maybe when you were told it's a very 90s song, that person was likening it
to the DM songs etc? There were a few morose songs during that time :-)


6/22/2010 5:07 AM (GMT-04:00)
User RankDawnAndDusk

Re: Re: End

cats_n_cheese wrote:
End is a very good song. I also love Open :-)
maybe when you were told it's a very 90s song, that person was likening it
to the DM songs etc? There were a few morose songs during that time :-)


Open's great as well. In fact, Wish is a pretty damn good album. You've got harsh, growling songs like End and Open, and you've got downbeat breathers like To Wish Impossible Things and Apart. If they'd put in some of the b-sides of the time, I think it might have been their best. I mean Wendy Time is nice, but edging out This Twilight Garden? Honestly...


6/23/2010 6:38 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Ranknotdeadyet

Re: End

Agree!! I really really love Wish, when I first bought it I could not turn it off :)

Open and End are both magnificent, as are TWIT and Apart and Trust... And FTEOTDGS is such a solid track, maybe rivaling the Disintegration title track...? Maybe...? haha x] and even the pop songs are pretty solid.. Letter to Elise is absolutely sweet, Friday I'm in Love is... ok... and Doing the Unstuck is just plain fun... For me, the only two tracks that are lacking a bit are Cut and Wendy Time, and those I think could definitely been replaced with some of the better b-sides :)

Good album!!! :D


6/24/2010 5:13 AM (GMT-04:00)
User RankDawnAndDusk

Re: Re: End

notdeadyet wrote:
Agree!! I really really love Wish, when I first bought it I could not turn it off :)

Open and End are both magnificent, as are TWIT and Apart and Trust... And FTEOTDGS is such a solid track, maybe rivaling the Disintegration title track...? Maybe...? haha x] and even the pop songs are pretty solid.. Letter to Elise is absolutely sweet, Friday I'm in Love is... ok... and Doing the Unstuck is just plain fun... For me, the only two tracks that are lacking a bit are Cut and Wendy Time, and those I think could definitely been replaced with some of the better b-sides :)

Good album!!! :D


Hmm. Strangely enough, I've never seen why people are so in love with From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea. Don't get me wrong, it's a great song and it's really good at what it does, that frenetic, relentless pacing, but for me it can't really stand up to some of the more powerful tracks on the album.

So, just curious, what would your dream Wish tracklist be, out of all the b-sides and tracks of the period? Mine would go something like...

Open
High/Friday (need one mindlessly happy song in there!)
From The Edge of the Deep Green Sea
Trust
Apart
This Twilight Garden
Doing the Unstuck
A Letter to Elise
The Big Hand
A Foolish Arrangement
To Wish Impossible Things
End

But maybe that wouldn't have fit in with the sort of album Wish was supposed to be. A little too bipolar I guess. Ah well, Robert knows best!


6/24/2010 3:33 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankcats_n_cheese

Re: Re: Re: End

DawnAndDusk wrote:
cats_n_cheese wrote:
End is a very good song. I also love Open :-)
maybe when you were told it's a very 90s song, that person was likening it
to the DM songs etc? There were a few morose songs during that time :-)


Open's great as well. In fact, Wish is a pretty damn good album. You've got harsh, growling songs like End and Open, and you've got downbeat breathers like To Wish Impossible Things and Apart. If they'd put in some of the b-sides of the time, I think it might have been their best. I mean Wendy Time is nice, but edging out This Twilight Garden? Honestly...


I would never have chosen Wendy Time ahead of This Twilight Garden


6/26/2010 3:12 AM (GMT-04:00)
User RankCure user

Re: End

That song skips in my CD player , I think I will need to buy the remastered Wish when it comes out.

But it's a great song I agree.

The mixes of Cut and Wendy time disappointed me somewhat , both songs have great basslines which you can hear clearly on the "Play out" video. I fell in love with them then but the guitar got the frontseat on the album.

My wish faves are Open , High , Apart , From the edge , A letter , To wish , End.

Wish is/was the best selling Cure record when it came out. I remember a lot of non-fans buying the album. How differently it could have turned out had the next album not been delayed till 1996 (thank LOL for taking Robert to court). A succesful album always needs a quick follow-up album.


10/21/2010 9:41 PM (GMT-04:00)
User Rankizzyisno1

Re: End

Ha, I just realized: Open+End=Open Ended.

perhaps....


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