The Cure

Faith.

This album means alot to me and I feel that it is a little under rated sometimes...

I could go on and on about why it means so much to me and how it impacted on my life, but I'd love to hear if and why anyone else holds this album so close to their hearts....

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KittenAsaCat wrote:
This album means alot to me and I feel that it is a little under rated sometimes...

I could go on and on about why it means so much to me and how it impacted on my life, but I'd love to hear if and why anyone else holds this album so close to their hearts....

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KYUZZ wrote:

KittenAsaCat wrote:
This album means alot to me and I feel that it is a little under rated sometimes...

I could go on and on about why it means so much to me and how it impacted on my life, but I'd love to hear if and why anyone else holds this album so close to their hearts....

maybe underrated because pronography was their next record. i dont think that the album faith is underrated. a few songs of faith are in every set. especially the song faith itself is one of the best songs to close a perfect night. one of my fave cure songs ever!

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KittenAsaCat wrote:
This album means alot to me and I feel that it is a little under rated sometimes...

I could go on and on about why it means so much to me and how it impacted on my life, but I'd love to hear if and why anyone else holds this album so close to their hearts....

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These are the album close to my heart: (including Faith)

Faith - especially Holy Hour and Other Voices. I really like the darkness of this album...
The Top
Disintegration
Head on the Door
Join the Dots

In no particular order.

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Nellie pretty much summed up why I love the album so much.(I was 18 at the time of my exposure to it)..and I also want to add that it helped/ still helps me get in touch with some pretty tough feelings that I need to acknowlege ...the honest questions, the rage, the sadness of how it (reality) seems to be the feeling of forsakenness, an honest, open-eyed search but seeing (and sensing in particular) nothing (at least not as the others seem to have-are they even for real?)...but then at the very end of the process a ray of hope...a sliver, yes, but it's there:
when faith is the only thing left...
it is a pretty big thing after all.
I love this album...it is part of me...and we are all part of it...ooh I'm starting to scare myself!! ; ) It speaks to the human condition.

Ok...that and
Primary is THEE rockingest song ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love love love that song!!!

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I don't listen to Faith a lot. Only when I'm terribly upset. However, I do listen to Other Voices often because it means something to me personally. It's a great album, but I just don't listen to it as much as I used to.

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Nellie wrote:
The album is very close to my heart - the closest of all albums ever (not only by The Cure), it's a reminder of a very strange time in my life, a time when I was on the one hand very happy and on the other hand depressed and insecure. I was 16/17 at the time and guess I had to find out who I was and growing up is never easy and...I don't know -even now I don't know what was going on then, but it was all very confusing and Faith is the soundtrack to this period of my life.

I love every single song on the album but The Drowning Man is the one that still makes me cry today.

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Faith means a lot to me. It is definitely one of my top 5 favorite albums by The Cure.
I really love the minimalism of the album and the religious undertones. It's bleak, grey, desolate, yet hopeful. It's not as dark or vicious as Pornography, but at the same time that is Faith's charm. As I have grown older and a bit wiser I can really understand that this album isn't teen angst or such but that faith in all things must be questioned yet still harbored or our lives are completely wasted.

The Funeral Party is my all time favorite song by The Cure. I think it could go on forever and I wouldn't mind at all. With Faith I feel that if this was the only album I would ever hear by The Cure, like if someone banned me from ever hearing another song by the band, I would still love them as much as I do now. Gorgeous album and it's lovely on a sad, rainy day...

Also the Charlotte Sometimes single is definitely worth mentioning here.

Get the Faith deluxe edition if you don't have it... it's a wonderful set :)

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Wow, you all find the words to describe what I feel about FAITH, too, it's such a "simple" Album, "desolate yet hopeful", that's it!

I never listen to it now when I am in a good or "ordinary" mood but especially when I get drunk and melancholy I end up listening to it on headphones, shutting out everything else around me, wrapped up in the music.

When my mother died a few months ago I sat in her flat late at night with a few beers listening to it over and over again. Funeral Party suddenly made more sense to me than ever and it hit me how young Robert was when he wrote the lyrics and how much he "knew" at the time, how well able he was to describe feelings and express his thoughts at such a young age, it's remarkable.

I agree that if this was the only album they ever made I would love them just for this.

And yes, Primary rocks!!!

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cheers me up when i've had a down kind of day,

YES get the deluxe edition should you not own this already,
the best version of 'faith' there is; thanks keith walker;

i hope one day we get to hear the whole show

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Happilyeverafter wrote:
>Ok...that and
Primary is THEE rockingest song ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love love love that song!!!

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Daveyraveygravey wrote:

Happilyeverafter wrote:
>Ok...that and
Primary is THEE rockingest song ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love love love that song!!!

Hit the nail on the head for me with that! The Cure mean a lot to me (I kept it quiet like a guilty secret for such a long time!) and although I feel Pornography is their finest hour, Primary has to be the best single song. I can't think of another song that sounds like it, from the stange "pac pac pac" sounds that start it, through Simon's bass which has never been better, it's a lovely upbeat song. I don't really understand the lyrics, but that childlike feel is terrific.

And it sits on Faith amongst Holy Hour, Drowning Man and Faith itself. Genius!

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I listened to it a few days ago after agessss of not listening to it. Its a really good album :) I love the songs Primary and Faith the most :)

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I think this album is really amazing especially when you think about how only a couple years before they were touring on Three Imaginary Boys. The Cure really grew musically in such a very short time. Godlike Geniuses indeed!

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Faith my favourite album. Its atmosphere very much is pleasant to me.

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Happilyeverafter wrote:

Daveyraveygravey wrote:

Happilyeverafter wrote:
>Ok...that and
Primary is THEE rockingest song ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love love love that song!!!

Hit the nail on the head for me with that! The Cure mean a lot to me (I kept it quiet like a guilty secret for such a long time!) and although I feel Pornography is their finest hour, Primary has to be the best single song. I can't think of another song that sounds like it, from the stange "pac pac pac" sounds that start it, through Simon's bass which has never been better, it's a lovely upbeat song. I don't really understand the lyrics, but that childlike feel is terrific.

And it sits on Faith amongst Holy Hour, Drowning Man and Faith itself. Genius!

: ) I totally "get" your guilty secret- therefore quiet--uh..deal. The scene *sucked* in that regard. Yeah...the intro to Primary as it comes off the bells ending the holy hour is absolutely ***the bomb!!*** I often wonder how Simon makes that sound...you put it like "pac pac pac" I can see that sorta, but heehee I think it goes more like "Dveep dveep dveep dveeooo!" : D Aaaaah!!! I never grow tired of it!

I had my bedroom painted blue (and quite a bit of the furniture the same baby blue) because of this song. : )

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I really love Faith and hate the magazines and so called music "experts" they always talk about Pornography being so dark and brooding but really it starts with Seventeen Seconds and finds its peak here with Faith. They talk about Pornography being very introspective and intimate but really, Faith is a whole other universe away from that in terms of intimacy. Fears about life itself are put on display and I think the whole package is perfect. Never mind Primary, All Cats are Grey and the Funeral Party are excellent songs, beautiful songs. I could talk about this forever hehe :)

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arsenic9sea wrote:

Faith means a lot to me. It is definitely one of my top 5 favorite albums by The Cure.
I really love the minimalism of the album and the religious undertones. It's bleak, grey, desolate, yet hopeful. It's not as dark or vicious as Pornography, but at the same time that is Faith's charm. As I have grown older and a bit wiser I can really understand that this album isn't teen angst or such but that faith in all things must be questioned yet still harbored or our lives are completely wasted.

The Funeral Party is my all time favorite song by The Cure. I think it could go on forever and I wouldn't mind at all. With Faith I feel that if this was the only album I would ever hear by The Cure, like if someone banned me from ever hearing another song by the band, I would still love them as much as I do now. Gorgeous album and it's lovely on a sad, rainy day...

Also the Charlotte Sometimes single is definitely worth mentioning here.

Get the Faith deluxe edition if you don't have it... it's a wonderful set :)

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Yeah that set is amazing but I'm not sure I get that with the album, desolate yet hopeful. Nothing left but faith is a really scarey line to go out on I think. I think it means that you never know what the truth is, what;s going to happen, but what can you do? You don't have any power. You just have a small faith in that things will be okay, never quite believing it. Bothersome last line! Just my impression anyway. {/q}

I'm so glad you commented on this! I love talking about stuff like this! You can ignore me or reply--it's up to you! I just like processing with others!!
It is true that we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, next week, next year.. And it's true (to an extent) that we really don't have any power. "A small faith that things will be okay." I like your positive outlook...I wish I was more like that, actually, but..um...(not to be argumentive), but would you say that to a mom of a kid with cancer?!
"Everything's going to be ok!" (I'm a mom of a kid with cancer, so this hits close to home). She is doing well, and the tumor hasn't grown, but there's always the possibility, you know? For things to go south. I'd like to *believe* that things will be okay, but to state it as fact is pretty presumptive, don't you think? (not that you did). I don't have faith that everything's going to be okay.
What can we do then?
I have faith that I've been brought through many hellish experiences (as well as good ones) and have been brought through them...and sometimes have been brought so low and been so alone I forgot to have faith...and I think Faith is *brilliant* in that Robert demonstrates more faith in the song than a lot of professing Christ-followers, me included. sigh gonna listen to it right now!! : )
(and to complete it) I believe I will be brought through more hellish and good experiences...and hopefully learn something. Thanks for reading. x

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i apologize for the negative slant of mind ...i ought to have said "hellish and wonderful" experiences...I keep copies of some thank you notes I and the kids have written and for some reason read them last night...and I actually have had some pretty wonderful experiences, come to think of it--some amazing ones, rather!!! Seeing the Cure at the Troubadour was one of them...I was being reminded. : )

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Happilyeverafter wrote:
i apologize for the negative slant of mind ...i ought to have said "hellish and wonderful" experiences...I keep copies of some thank you notes I and the kids have written and for some reason read them last night...and I actually have had some pretty wonderful experiences, come to think of it--some amazing ones, rather!!! Seeing the Cure at the Troubadour was one of them...I was being reminded. : )

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I wrote this recently in a letter to a friend. I hadn't previously mentioned it here in the forum because of a lot of the personal attacks that have taken place in the General Forum, but this seems like a safer place, so I'm going to share it with you.

When I was 17 (in 1986), the beautiful, sad bass playing on the 12” live version of Faith (opposite Charlotte Sometimes and Splintered In Her Head) pretty much saved my life. I was in Germany and my German boyfriend and I had broken up and I took everything way too seriously. I seriously wanted to die and was coming up with a plan to kill myself. I put that record on and could not stop listening to it – again and again for probably 6 hours straight. I think I came out of my room for dinner and made some excuses to my host parents, and then continued to replay that song again and again over the next 72 hours and eventually worked through it. But essentially, for a while at least, the only reason I didn’t kill myself was because I wanted to hear that song again. It’s so soothing – some would say monotonous – I would say reassuring – like a good friend putting their arms around you and telling you, “it’s OK, I’ve got you.” These days, I’m able to listen to Faith – any version of it – without bawling, so that’s good! I still think it’s just a gorgeous song, and it’s another one of so many songs from The Cure that just really puts my head in the right place – obviously!

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I know exactly what you mean LA Lovecat :) Faith has saved my life also... the song and the album as a whole

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arsenic9sea wrote:

I know exactly what you mean LA Lovecat :) Faith has saved my life also... the song and the album as a whole

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LA Lovecat wrote:

arsenic9sea wrote:

I know exactly what you mean LA Lovecat :) Faith has saved my life also... the song and the album as a whole

It's a brilliant album! I fell in love with the bass guitar, and Simon’s bass playing in particular, with the Faith album. At the time, I had Seventeen Seconds, Faith and THOTD. With no Internet and very few Cure fanzines (mostly just about Robert when they mentioned The Cure at all), I had no idea which of the non-RS guys in photos was the one who played the bass. I only knew for sure what Robert Smith looked like, and that the other two were either Lawrence Tolhurst or Simon Gallup. So for a while, I actually thought Simon might have been Lol! He would probably wince at the thought... sorry! :)

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Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

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Psymon1968 wrote:
Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

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KittenAsaCat wrote:

Psymon1968 wrote:
Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

I feel that way too. I think that perhaps it makes me feel less alone with the things I think about... Maybe. I'm not sure though.

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thetopper wrote:

Happilyeverafter wrote:
i apologize for the negative slant of mind ...i ought to have said "hellish and wonderful" experiences...I keep copies of some thank you notes I and the kids have written and for some reason read them last night...and I actually have had some pretty wonderful experiences, come to think of it--some amazing ones, rather!!! Seeing the Cure at the Troubadour was one of them...I was being reminded. : )

Yeah, we all have the good times and the bad times. You sound like you're going through the worst of times right now and with all my heart I hope everything is okay. But yeah, I think you have a point, we don't know and I sometimes don't have faith that it'll all be okay, but what CAN we do? We can't go back and we can't stay in one spot. So there's nothing we can do but go on and maybe just try and have faith...Faith maybe just in faith itself when everything else, Faith through praying, god and in those around is has failed. I'm not sure...

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arsenic9sea wrote:

KittenAsaCat wrote:

Psymon1968 wrote:
Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

I feel that way too. I think that perhaps it makes me feel less alone with the things I think about... Maybe. I'm not sure though.

I see what you mean. I love the minimalism of the album so much

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Happilyeverafter wrote:

arsenic9sea wrote:

KittenAsaCat wrote:

Psymon1968 wrote:
Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

I feel that way too. I think that perhaps it makes me feel less alone with the things I think about... Maybe. I'm not sure though.

I see what you mean. I love the minimalism of the album so much

Yes yes yes!!!! I think it has to do with submolecular ions righting themselves...for example, I love cloudy cold days...I'm way more chipper on those days! And Faith is like that for me...I think something chemical happens when we listen and our heads process it and we can't help but feel happy.

At least some idiot isn't trying to cheer us up!!!! That in itself can make happy.. : )

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Thanks to everyone for sharing your stories... LA Lovecat and HappilyEverAfter especially. I've tried to put to words about why this album means so much to me but I seem to be finding it extremely difficult to do, even though I know exactly how I feel about it. I'll try again the next time I'm listening to it I think...

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Opps, i missed this, too much confusion of looking on the boards/topics.

I love this album, it really doesn't get enough respect or love, it doesn't have the grandeur of many of the other Cure albums, its almost slightly humble within itself, like its an album really happy gloomy album, very minimalist but very effective (i'm sure i'm repeating what others have said badly), and really lingers within you afterwards.
I have a lot of memories standing on train platforms in the winter time listening to faith, its also makes me think of really lonely long journeys because of that.

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LA Lovecat wrote:

Happilyeverafter wrote:

arsenic9sea wrote:

KittenAsaCat wrote:

Psymon1968 wrote:
Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

I feel that way too. I think that perhaps it makes me feel less alone with the things I think about... Maybe. I'm not sure though.

I see what you mean. I love the minimalism of the album so much

Yes yes yes!!!! I think it has to do with submolecular ions righting themselves...for example, I love cloudy cold days...I'm way more chipper on those days! And Faith is like that for me...I think something chemical happens when we listen and our heads process it and we can't help but feel happy.

At least some idiot isn't trying to cheer us up!!!! That in itself can make happy.. : )

Yes I agree wholeheartedly with this also. I just got a book (which I need to take a moment and read now!) that explains why certain songs/melodies are so moving to us in more scientific terms. Based upon the conversation, I thought you guys might be interested.

The book is called - This Is Your Brain On Music: The Science of a Human Obsession

Here's a review/synopsis of the book from Amazon.com:

(From Publishers Weekly)
Think of a song that resonates deep down in your being. Now imagine sitting down with someone who was there when the song was recorded and can tell you how that series of sounds was committed to tape, and who can also explain why that particular combination of rhythms, timbres and pitches has lodged in your memory, making your pulse race and your heart swell every time you hear it. Remarkably, Levitin does all this and more, interrogating the basic nature of hearing and of music making (this is likely the only book whose jacket sports blurbs from both Oliver Sacks and Stevie Wonder), without losing an affectionate appreciation for the songs he's reducing to neural impulses. Levitin is the ideal guide to this material: he enjoyed a successful career as a rock musician and studio producer before turning to cognitive neuroscience, earning a Ph.D. and becoming a top researcher into how our brains interpret music. Though the book starts off a little dryly (the first chapter is a crash course in music theory), Levitin's snappy prose and relaxed style quickly win one over and will leave readers thinking about the contents of their iPods in an entirely new way. (Aug.)

Here's the link to the book's page on Amazon.com if you're interested in more info:
http://www.amazon.com/This-Your-Brain-Music-Obsession/dp/0452288525/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249090918&sr=8-1

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AntoniaJm wrote:
Opps, i missed this, too much confusion of looking on the boards/topics.

I love this album, it really doesn't get enough respect or love, it doesn't have the grandeur of many of the other Cure albums, its almost slightly humble within itself, like its an album really happy gloomy album, very minimalist but very effective (i'm sure i'm repeating what others have said badly), and really lingers within you afterwards.
I have a lot of memories standing on train platforms in the winter time listening to faith, its also makes me think of really lonely long journeys because of that.

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Happilyeverafter wrote:
Woooh!!!! Way Cool, LaLovecat!!!! (In haste), but had to say thanks!! Thank you! I"m gonna look up your ref! : D

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Happilyeverafter wrote:
{q a=[[Happilyeverafter]]br />Davyravygravy--
Uh.. I just reread what I said...and it could be misconstrued..and I hope you didn't take it wrong...I did not mean you when I said "The scene *sucked*... I meant others...and how mean they could be over someone's musical tastes...er, maybe 'mean''s a strong word, just not as friendly.. am I the only one who got crap for liking them? I know why others don't like them..cos they had hits !!, cos they had pop songs that made the radio (I personally like The Cure's pop songs! I also like their "dark" songs!) : p so please don't get me wrong..

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Psymon1968 wrote:
Faith is one of my favourite albums.I can put it on if i'm feeling low but somehow it cheers me up.Does anyone else find that if they put on what might be considered a dark record,it has the opposite effect?

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I wasnt a big fan of faith at first but i just sat down and listened to it properly and now i love it, this and pornography are two of my favourites yet they are not easy to listen to. You have to be in a certain state of mind, but being 16 it isnt that hard to find that state of mind.

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LA Lovecat wrote:

Happilyeverafter wrote:
Woooh!!!! Way Cool, LaLovecat!!!! (In haste), but had to say thanks!! Thank you! I"m gonna look up your ref! : D

I really want to read it... but I keep getting slammed here at work (or distracted in the pub in the other forum)... maybe I'll make a start on it tonight, because I really want to read this!

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Daveyraveygravey wrote:

Happilyeverafter wrote:
{q a=[[Happilyeverafter]]br />Davyravygravy--
Uh.. I just reread what I said...and it could be misconstrued..and I hope you didn't take it wrong...I did not mean you when I said "The scene *sucked*... I meant others...and how mean they could be over someone's musical tastes...er, maybe 'mean''s a strong word, just not as friendly.. am I the only one who got crap for liking them? I know why others don't like them..cos they had hits !!, cos they had pop songs that made the radio (I personally like The Cure's pop songs! I also like their "dark" songs!) : p so please don't get me wrong..

(One of the strange things about this forum I can't figure out is how to quote people without just repeating everything they say! But that's another issue...)

I've been away in Italy saoking up some beautiful sunshine and booze and grub, so haven't been able to reply before. I didn't take any offence, I know exactly what you mean. Music is so intensely personal, I rarely get into discussions with peope who have different tastes. (My daughter is into Flo Rida and R&B, jeez when we debate what CD to have on in the car next, it gets messy!)

Anyway, back on track, Faith is a cathartic experience for me, I understand why people who don't get it say it is repetitive and depressing, but I love it for those reasons. I listen to it, and whatever mood I start out with, yes, it can make you sink like a stone as it progresses, but by the end of Faith itself, I'm right back up there, ready to take the world on, or whatever...

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I think "Faith" and "Pornography" are my favourite albums. They're totally different from each other but every has the same "thing" which makes them magic. It's pretty hard to explain what it really is :P

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Faith is a very difficult one to listen to, and indeed it is a sort of "Pornography Lite", almost like Pornography's precursor, really.

But a lot of people don't notice that it is a brilliant album in itself. The problem is how hard it is to listen to, it's very hard-hitting! Personally I'd say it was darker than Pornography, which is more "heavy" and less "depressing".

It's funny, the first time I heard Faith I didn't like it at all - while I was amazed by the fantastic phased guitar and bass sounds (very Joy Division!), I found it really difficult to enjoy, I was ready to trade the special edition in for a normal one (I like to have special editions of albums I know I love, heh), then one night, in the dark, I closed my eyes and listened to it in it's entirety and somehow it blew my mind, particularly the Carnage Visors soundtrack piece.

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I have to agree, Faith is an underrated album. I love the atmosphere created by the sound. It encapsulates the album so well, very moody, inspiring and full of potential. The title track is such a good ending to an album, I relate to it so much.

Thanks xc

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A piece of Cure trivia..
Robert says he listens to 'Faith' every year on his birthday.. We also know Robert is well known for 'stretching the truth', so take this one however you like.. :p

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Roberts Lyrics on this album are the most underated thing about this album. Listin to the words.

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NickMH wrote:
Roberts Lyrics on this album are the most underated thing about this album. Listin to the words.

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Hmm. Underrated? Perhaps because it was followed immediately after by the raw power of Pornography?
I think Faith is one of their purest albums, actually. By purest, I mean uncompromisingly firm in the way it communicates its message. Faith is, unquestionably, lacking in optimism. Me, I like to listen to it as a dense emotional wash of grey, spectral catharsis. It's a critical part both in the Cure's progression as a band, I think.
As for a single song, I think All Cats Are Grey is simply transcendent. It's one of those songs that hits you, no matter what situation you're in, a song that you can feel, that you can live...

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DistantJ wrote:
Faith is a very difficult one to listen to, and indeed it is a sort of "Pornography Lite", almost like Pornography's precursor, really.

But a lot of people don't notice that it is a brilliant album in itself. The problem is how hard it is to listen to, it's very hard-hitting! Personally I'd say it was darker than Pornography, which is more "heavy" and less "depressing".

It's funny, the first time I heard Faith I didn't like it at all - while I was amazed by the fantastic phased guitar and bass sounds (very Joy Division!), I found it really difficult to enjoy, I was ready to trade the special edition in for a normal one (I like to have special editions of albums I know I love, heh), then one night, in the dark, I closed my eyes and listened to it in it's entirety and somehow it blew my mind, particularly the Carnage Visors soundtrack piece.

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you wanna know what's fun? : D I discovered this just this morning. I was driving with my ipod on and sang karaoke-ish to The Holy Hour (group home demo) and heard the *right* sounds at the *right* places! "I kneel.." "I sit.."
"I stand..." (I came in too soon, though, on that one) fun fun fun!! (until i messed up)... : )